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and good evening frank here with yet

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another episode of

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ufo news network sunday and it was

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quite a week for news this past week

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uh some plot twists along the way in the

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long and twisted story of finding out

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more and more about this ufo stuff

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so let's not beat around the bush let's

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get right to the big story of the week

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it dropped

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early in the week on may the 3rd

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on monday the project and announcement

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and evaluation of the department of

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defense's actions regarding

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the unidentified aerial phenomenon uh

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coming from the

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department of defense's office of the

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inspector general

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uh quite uh something uh

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uh from left field i mean i don't think

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anybody really saw this coming

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uh it's very interesting uh this is a

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hammer no doubt about it

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we've been hearing stories that

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uh the the things just aren't moving

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along properly

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that uh that the the the whole effort

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needed a bit of a kick

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and uh this is certainly that uh

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somebody uh

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pushed probably the best button that

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they could possibly push

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in regards to moving more facts coming

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out about ufos along and uh

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let's go into the details now uh we've

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uh uh we plan to

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begin the subject evaluation in may 2021

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so this isn't happening right away uh

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yeah we're already in may 2021.

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uh the objective of this evaluation is

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to determine the extent to which the dod

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has taken actions regarding unidentified

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aerial phenomenon

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we may revise the objective as the

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evaluation proceeds

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we will perform the evaluation at the

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offices of the secretary of defense

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military services

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combatant commands combat support

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agencies defense agencies

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and the military criminal investigative

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organizations uh that is a tool that is

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in the inspector general's toolbox i

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don't expect that we're going to see

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anybody going to jail

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anytime soon over all this but again

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it's a tool in the toolbox they can

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prosecute people

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now please provide us with a point of

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contact for the evaluation within five

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days of the date of this memorandum

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uh the point of contact should be a

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government employee or military service

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member

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gs15 and here's the

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the con send the contacts name to this

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redacted email

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you can obtain information about the

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department of defense

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office of the inspector general from dod

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directive

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and so on and so forth so if you have

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any questions

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please contact this redacted name at the

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dod

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and uh excuse me and here are the uh

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hang on let me

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go over to the slide here and uh here

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are the people who were

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sort of uh put on notice regarding this

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secretaries of the military departments

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uh so secretary of the navy secretary of

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the air force and so on

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uh chairman of the joint chiefs of staff

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under secretary of defense for research

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uh so on down the line commander of

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northern command u.s special operations

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projects defense intelligence agency uh

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that is uh avril haynes and uh the uh

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see here secretary of the military

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uh that's uh uh the auditor general of

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army and uh air force so this is a

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uh this is uh quite a bombshell uh this

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is quite a button to push uh

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not too sure exactly who pushed it uh

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there's was some speculation of course

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uh that because uh prosecutions people

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are going to jail

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maybe this has to do with uh lou

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elizondo being something of a

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whistleblower and it's a

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some blowback from all that i don't

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the the most reasonable speculation

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senators rubio and uh uh

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mark warner uh got enough word that the

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things aren't moving along and they

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decided to step in and push the buttons

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uh maybe some of it came internally yeah

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some uh are acting in a little bit more

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of a prop fashion than others

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and uh somebody uh internally within the

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pentagon got a little tired of this

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suspects in this uh but needless to say

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so we will see but this is a very

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compelling button to push so

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big news uh don't think any this wasn't

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uh rumored anywhere wasn't uh

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being talked about anywhere uh but this

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news dropped and uh it is compelling

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and i would say this is an excellent

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uh for us who are following this story

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that we like quite a bit and uh should

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like it quite a bit

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a real hammer here a real good button to

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uh again not probably the best possible

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button to push

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in order to get the information out so

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that's that

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not too much more to say on it than that

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but uh that's where that is and that is

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good news that was a

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a big plus for the the pro ufo

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long form interviews from christopher

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mellon of course uh

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now i guess he's formally uh working as

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some kind of a uh startup fund manager

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or something along those lines uh

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obviously finance or something he

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but he did a couple long-form interviews

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and as far as i can recall

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what he knows and obviously his

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knowledge base is estimable

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joe rogan uh earlier in the week that

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midweek and uh not uh

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uh melon was skeptical and at

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one point uh he had said that he was

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told and that this is gonna be a

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recurring theme in this uh

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that sort of thing even from credible

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uh that uh lazar had worked in that when

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he worked at los alamos uh all he really

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check radiation shields uh these are

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and what the melon said that the lazar

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had his job was merely checking

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radiation shields

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i'm not sure how accurate it is i'm

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when he said that it caught my attention

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and jogged my memory immediately

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it sounds like something that was just

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alamos that he was just there in a sort

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but he wasn't a top scientist and here

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diamonds are forever and at one point a

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infiltrated a secret base in the las

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and uh his cover he was sort of like

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disguising himself as a

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a guy who worked there was that he was

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just checking radiation shield so let me

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up for you just uh checking my radiation

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so there's that so so we got that

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uh so uh that was one interesting uh

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you know you hear things i think

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somebody just made sort of an

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offhand comment uh you know james bond

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you've seen all those james bond movies

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just basically uh it was a little joke

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that uh mellon

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is what happened there

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so uh that is that now another uh

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uh where melon discussed a an incident

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involving steven spielberg

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being at the white house with ronald

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reagan showing his movie e.t

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and in fact uh that is actually that

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as fact he just stated it as kind of

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a general anecdote that may or may not

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actually a little bit of a stir

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uh back in the day when that when this

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date looking back on it was already

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it's already almost 10 years ago uh when

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this happened i thought it was uh

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quite astonishing it was the most

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shocking thing looking back it's been 10

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years already

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because you know things were slow back

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in those days as far as ufo goes so

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uh when uh steven spielberg goes on the

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record and basically confirmed sort of

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an anecdote that had been floating

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around for a number of years

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it was it did create a little bit of

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news

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at least among us ufo folks so uh here's

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uh here's how the conversation went uh

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this fellow quinta

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uh wright uh wrote for this uh ain't it

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cool news website

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uh essentially a movie website i've

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heard a story that i wanted to run by

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you i have no idea if it's true but an

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effects

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friend of mine told me about a special

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screening of e.t

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for ronald reagan have you heard the

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story spielberg

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i was there so yeah this is great you

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actually here's a

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here's an instance where you actually

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have uh the person who is uh

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there he's there so you got a first

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person on the record account

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now it'd be like to see it'd be nice to

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see a lot more of this type of thing

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as far as ufos are concerned about some

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more important matters than this old

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anecdote but i thought it was

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interesting it made me chuckle when

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melon brought it up

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so uh going back to quinn uh the story i

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heard is that when reagan

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saw it he started talking about how

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close to reality

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it was and he was quickly ushered out of

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the room is that true

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well spielberg said well no that part

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wasn't true

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and again is this is how these uh these

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things get twisted around you know

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uh the the old telephone game in uh

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seemed seemingly everything regarding

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ufos now he wasn't ushered out of the

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room he was the president of the united

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states

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uh nobody could usher ronald reagan out

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of the room it was a

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in a the white house screening room and

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reagan got up to thank me for bringing

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the film to show the president first

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lady hold a guest so on so on

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i think neil armstrong was there i'm not

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100

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certain but it was an amazing amazing

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evening so uh

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he just stood up and looked around the

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room almost like he was doing a head

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count he said

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i wanted to thank you for bringing e.t

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to the white house we really enjoyed

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your movie

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and then he looked around the room and

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said and there are a number of people in

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this room who know that everything on

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that screen is absolutely true

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and he said it without smiling but he

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said it uh that

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he said that and everybody laughed by

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the way

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uh the whole room laughed because he

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presented it like a joke but he wasn't

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smiling as he said it so that's uh

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the way uh spielberg recounts that

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particular story i guess he didn't

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follow up with reagan and

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impress him on what he knew about ufos

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since you know spielberg didn't make

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close encounters as well

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but uh that was the movie that was uh

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showing that particular night and uh

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that's

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uh that was the comment reagan made and

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yeah that uh that

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you know uh you got sp steven spielberg

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on the record saying yeah

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the the story was essentially true not

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that about him being ushered out of the

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room but it was uh by and large it was

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accurate

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and so i thought that was pretty

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interesting and uh digging into the

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archives i thought that was

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worth sharing with you all so uh there

389
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was that and then there was another one

390
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that uh joe rogan brought up about

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uh jackie gleason seeing alien bodies at

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an air force base

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in florida now that one again

394
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that one is essentially true but there

395
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are some problems with it

396
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uh and what let me uh let me get

397
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to i have a tough time reading off the

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smaller

399
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uh yeah okay off the uh the small text

400
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on the uh

401
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on the uploading software so i have to

402
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look at it in a different program

403
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uh but uh basically uh

404
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the way rogan recounted it was larry

405
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warren of uh rendelsham forest fame and

406
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uh someone who was a a while uh he was

407
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stationed at rendelsham uh uh

408
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while the uh uh while the uh rendelsome

409
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forest incident took place he's

410
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proven to be uh somewhat uh uh

411
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less than a uh really credible source on

412
00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:38,959
a lot of other things that he's thought

413
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a lot of things that he said

414
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a lot of things that he's recounted and

415
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how he's put himself into different

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situations

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uh but he had apparently said that that

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gleason told him directly

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uh essentially uh the uh the essence of

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the story

421
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but the the the

422
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the source is uh mrs gleason herself

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uh she was interviewed in the national

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inquirer

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uh back in 1983 it was while

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uh she was going uh through a divorce uh

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with gleason

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but the essence of the story is true uh

429
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some key

430
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facts like i say i'm highly skeptical of

431
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the fact that uh larry warren uh became

432
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ufo buddies with jackie gleason they

433
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heard that story directly from gleason i

434
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i think that tends not to be the case uh

435
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but

436
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again uh the essence of the story is

437
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true a little bit off

438
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and again you see let me uh

439
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there's the uh in a cool news story and

440
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there's the gleason story

441
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so you get to see those and uh

442
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yep that was in the national enquirer

443
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back in 1983

444
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and uh yeah melon

445
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also discussed a video of

446
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supposedly ufos that were shown

447
00:16:01,509 --> 00:15:59,839
on the television show nightline back

448
00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:01,519
when that ted koppel was hosting it this

449
00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:02,880
was back in the 80s

450
00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:05,360
so let's uh that was tracked down and

451
00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:06,480
let's take a look

452
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:09,360
at that particular video this is it uh

453
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,880
can't make out too much from that but

454
00:16:14,389 --> 00:16:12,480
that's the video you get to see it for

455
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,399
yourself and judge it for yourself

456
00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:16,560
looping that over a little bit so that

457
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was that

458
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and uh there it is in case you were

459
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:22,160
wondering hey i'd like to take a look at

460
00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,000
that video uh there it is so

461
00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:27,440
so there's that now let's go back to

462
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uh the melon interviews

463
00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:34,399
and let's uh go to

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his conversation with uh former

465
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astronaut uh former jet fighter pilot uh

466
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terry

467
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verts he did an interview with verts and

468
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,399
during

469
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this interview uh he made

470
00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:47,839
uh some very interesting comments

471
00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,040
regarding

472
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the rendleship case or excuse me not the

473
00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:52,240
rental ship

474
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:55,120
the stephenville case and that is a case

475
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that is of

476
00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,079
a great deal of interest to me it was a

477
00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:00,800
a huge case back in 2009

478
00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:03,360
very early on uh when i was uh excuse me

479
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:04,240
2008

480
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:06,079
very early on when i started following

481
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all this so let's take a listen and uh

482
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listen to

483
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what uh uh finally uh from somebody on

484
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:13,280
the inside actually

485
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,000
volunteering some information about the

486
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:18,240
stephenville case this was a huge case

487
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in the day

488
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it was right in the middle of uh when

489
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the a-tip program was operational

490
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it happened over the uh the continental

491
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united states to land it wasn't

492
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out over the ocean somewhere on some

493
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naval training exercises

494
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it happened right as a matter of fact

495
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urath county it happened

496
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right near crawford county uh which is

497
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where then president george

498
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w bush was living so let's take a look

499
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and listen to what

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he has to say here and let's pull this

501
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up

502
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non-attribution anonymous i would just

503
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scour

504
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,440
the air force pilot ranks and radar

505
00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:01,120
operators awax and say hey

506
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have you guys seen anything that's the

507
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:04,880
only you know

508
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,600
we have the data we have but knowing the

509
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:09,200
culture i bet you there's more data out

510
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there that people haven't reported

511
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i promise you there is um i'm in touch

512
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with uh

513
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people on on the task force some of them

514
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and

515
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i know there are many other incidents

516
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that

517
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:26,000
the public domain

518
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i also know there have been incidents

519
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over the years

520
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for example um there was an intercept in

521
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texas

522
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during uh george bush the younger george

523
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:37,760
bush's presidency

524
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of an unidentified uh aircraft that was

525
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approaching his ranch

526
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and um faa radars were tracking it the

527
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air force

528
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scrambled some f-16s and um

529
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:53,520
there was sort of a prolonged uh chase

530
00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:54,799
engagement there

531
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near stevensville texas and during the

532
00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:58,960
a-tip program

533
00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:01,360
one of the air force officers who had uh

534
00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:03,039
you know top secret clearances and so

535
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,760
forth

536
00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:05,919
uh tried to interview some of the f-16

537
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:07,840
pilots and they refused to talk they

538
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:10,160
said we signed non-disclosure agreements

539
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:11,520
and even though you're air force and

540
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,480
even though you're supposed to be

541
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,000
investigating

542
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:17,120
this phenomenon we can't talk to you and

543
00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:17,600
so

544
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:19,919
there's there's that kind of information

545
00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:21,120
that um

546
00:19:25,909 --> 00:19:24,080
is out there but but you know who's

547
00:19:27,909 --> 00:19:25,919
who's got the who's ever recorded that

548
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:27,919
and where does it reside

549
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:30,320
on what their what it was that they saw

550
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:32,160
and encountered and so forth i think

551
00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:33,120
there's a

552
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:36,640
available

553
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:39,440
potentially that's uh not been tapped or

554
00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:42,000
looked at yet

555
00:19:46,870 --> 00:19:45,120
and it's about time

556
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:46,880
somebody finally uh brought up the

557
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:48,880
stephen case uh good job christopher

558
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:50,480
bell and that was a nice little plot

559
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,440
twist this week

560
00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:53,679
i wasn't expecting that coming i've been

561
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:55,200
talking about stephenville in the

562
00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:56,720
context of atip

563
00:20:01,750 --> 00:20:00,160
uh really since uh we knew uh when that

564
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,760
program was operational

565
00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:04,320
you know uh uh what years that was

566
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:05,919
operational hey right in the middle of

567
00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:08,240
all that there was the stephenville case

568
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:12,080
and uh let's uh talk a little bit about

569
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:15,200
uh what happened with stephenville and

570
00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:16,240
uh there was a

571
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:19,360
a report written by mufon by robert

572
00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:22,480
powell and glenn schultz where they were

573
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:23,039
able to

574
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:26,240
foia out uh the commercial uh

575
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,840
radar readings and in that information

576
00:20:33,830 --> 00:20:31,120
they were able to make this

577
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:33,840
determination as to what these witnesses

578
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,240
saw

579
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:36,240
it is difficult to determine uh to

580
00:20:40,870 --> 00:20:37,679
determine it uh

581
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:40,880
it was not any known aircraft uh the

582
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:43,679
enormous size of the object its complete

583
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:45,840
silence and its ability to travel

584
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,799
at high rates of speed and to remain

585
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:50,559
also remain stationary or

586
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:53,440
travel at slow speeds is not explained

587
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:53,760
by

588
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,720
any known aircraft uh the smallest size

589
00:21:02,070 --> 00:20:58,960
calculated for witness descriptions

590
00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,080
was 524 feet and most of the

591
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:04,080
calculations based on approximate

592
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:05,280
distance of the object

593
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:08,400
and the witness descriptions of degrees

594
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,039
of sky

595
00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:11,200
covered by the object indicated an

596
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:14,720
object closer to a thousand feet in size

597
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:17,679
twice radar picked up an unknown object

598
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,000
flying at 1900 to 2100 miles an hour

599
00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:24,080
admittedly it could have been a

600
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:25,760
coincidental radar hit

601
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,480
but in both cases that coincident occur

602
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:31,039
coincidence occurred when a witness saw

603
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:33,280
a very fast moving object

604
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,360
in the same direction as an object

605
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:36,880
painted by radar

606
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:39,039
twice a radar tracked slow moving

607
00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,120
objects for extended periods of time

608
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:43,200
that were very near the witness location

609
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,799
in the direction described by the

610
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:45,840
witnesses

611
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:48,480
by the witness and at approximately the

612
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:50,320
same time that the witness saw the

613
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:51,360
unknown object

614
00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:54,480
it is very difficult to dismiss witness

615
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,440
testimony

616
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,080
that is corroborated by radar and to

617
00:22:01,029 --> 00:22:00,480
further augment the strangeness of these

618
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:01,039
events

619
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:03,200
radar tracked one of those two objects

620
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:04,320
for over an hour

621
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:07,200
as it traveled toward crawford ranch the

622
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,840
authors

623
00:22:10,870 --> 00:22:10,000
cannot comment on the source or origin

624
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:10,880
of this object

625
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,799
but it is clear to the authors that the

626
00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:13,919
unknown object

627
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,960
was real and not imaginary why

628
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:19,039
are more people not pressing on more

629
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,080
information

630
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:22,640
about this case i certainly have when

631
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,880
i've had the opportu

632
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,960
and here's that quote from george knapp

633
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,880
he did and asked me anything

634
00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:31,120
over at the coast to coast uh website a

635
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:32,000
while back

636
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:35,039
uh this is uh the the best chance that i

637
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:38,240
got to get in this question and uh this

638
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:38,960
was it

639
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:41,760
uh the answer is yes however that part

640
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,559
uh

641
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:44,720
my questions obviously did the a tip or

642
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,240
awesome take a look at

643
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,320
the stephenville case and uh obviously

644
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,919
uh from two different sources now we've

645
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:51,760
got to confirm that they did for mellon

646
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:52,320
and now

647
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,679
melon

648
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,760
uh the answer is yes however the part

649
00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:58,960
that is fuzzy

650
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,840
is whether it was a tip or awsap uh he

651
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:03,919
said uh melon said it was a tip

652
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:06,159
the program had two names awesapp was

653
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:07,120
the first name

654
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:08,880
and it mostly referred to the private

655
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:10,320
contractor bass

656
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,360
i do not have a security clearance so

657
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:15,039
i'm not supposed to know some of this

658
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,760
stuff

659
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,280
but can say with some level of

660
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,679
confidence that the stephenville case

661
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:22,000
did garner some attention i can't say

662
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,679
for sure whether that was

663
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,600
uh the folks in the pentagon who looked

664
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,760
at it or the private contractors but

665
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,280
they did exchange info

666
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:31,440
on a fairly regular basis from what i

667
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,559
understand

668
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,960
this is one case that uh you know you've

669
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:37,200
got all these uh ufo activists

670
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:41,039
uh uh sending uh uh letters and uh

671
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,000
correspondence to congress asking uh for

672
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:45,360
more about this stuff

673
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:48,559
uh about uh get us disclosure blah blah

674
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:49,039
blah

675
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,960
we've got real specific questions that

676
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:53,039
we can ask you know in the real specific

677
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,679
places

678
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,679
uh that we can send this information and

679
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:56,960
uh frankly it's uh

680
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,240
misdirected and uh honestly uh robert

681
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:02,080
powell is a member of the scu

682
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:03,760
uh they're uh they're ones who are

683
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:05,360
gathered together a bunch of scientists

684
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:06,559
saying that we should get this

685
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,600
information out

686
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,360
and uh when i asked him what he thought

687
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:10,799
about all this he said

688
00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:12,880
it didn't happen they didn't look at it

689
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:14,640
because and uh the reason being

690
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,520
according to pal was if the military had

691
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:19,120
looked at the stephenville case i would

692
00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:20,320
have known about it well

693
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,880
i think we've got two pretty solid on

694
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,159
the record sources

695
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,000
that are saying that they did look at it

696
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:27,840
and uh we need to start

697
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:30,559
asking some more questions about it so

698
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:30,960
uh

699
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:37,840
friday

700
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,799
uh and uh this was a story where uh

701
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:41,760
harry reid

702
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:45,039
uh made some comments about uh uh

703
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:47,679
crash debris was a really lengthy story

704
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,080
that

705
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:50,960
was appeared in the new yorker uh in

706
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:52,880
general a good story

707
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:55,520
i think for sort of a general audience

708
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:56,559
uh

709
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,960
describe it as a good story for a

710
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:02,400
general audience but

711
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,559
it was nice to have a little bit of

712
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:06,880
information that was good for us as well

713
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:09,840
and uh the quote uh here from reed well

714
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,240
it

715
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:12,880
goes back over some old ground regarding

716
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:15,120
a discrepancy and a retraction

717
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,320
uh from a new york times story uh last

718
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,480
summer regarding crash debris

719
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,320
and uh there was a little bit of back

720
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:24,480
and forth about that uh skeptics seize

721
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:25,440
on it and make

722
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:27,440
uh make a big deal out of it i i don't

723
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:28,559
think it's

724
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,440
that much of a big deal maybe just a a

725
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,039
clarification

726
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:35,760
again not a big deal but uh the author

727
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:36,080
uh

728
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,200
ask reed about it and ask him to clarify

729
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:44,000
so uh he he covers it and i think this

730
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,480
is a

731
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:46,640
uh the most interesting part of the

732
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,600
story to uh

733
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:49,279
you know uh the folks like us the folks

734
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:50,880
who follow this stuff uh

735
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:53,600
uh you know the inside baseball stuff we

736
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:54,159
want to know

737
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,440
we already know a lot and we want to

738
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,279
know more basically so

739
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,600
uh in the story keane and blumenthal

740
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:01,200
wrote that harry reid believed that

741
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:03,039
crashes of vehicles from other worlds

742
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,919
had occurred

743
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:06,000
and that retrieved materials had been

744
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,000
studied secretly for decades

745
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:10,000
often by aerospace companies under

746
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:11,279
government contract

747
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:13,600
uh the day after its publication that

748
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,720
times had

749
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,520
to append a correction senator reid did

750
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,279
not believe that crash debris had been

751
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,799
allocated to private military

752
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,320
contractors for study

753
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:24,480
he believed that ufos may have crashed

754
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,760
and that if so

755
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:27,919
we should be studying the fallout when i

756
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,919
asked reed about the confusion he told

757
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:31,360
me that he admired keane

758
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:33,279
but that he had never seen proof of any

759
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:34,480
remnants something

760
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:37,039
keane had never actually claimed yeah

761
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:38,400
which is accurate she didn't say that

762
00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:39,200
she didn't write that

763
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,360
but he left no doubt in our conversation

764
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,120
as to his personal assessment

765
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:45,120
i was told for decades here's that theme

766
00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:46,799
again i heard this i heard that

767
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:49,440
okay uh that uh i was told for decades

768
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:49,919
that

769
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,159
lockheed had some of these retrieved

770
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:53,760
materials he said

771
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:55,840
and i tried to get it as i recall a

772
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:58,159
classified approval by the pentagon

773
00:27:01,269 --> 00:27:00,159
to have me go look at the stuff they

774
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,279
would not approve that

775
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:03,440
i don't know what all the numbers were

776
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,919
what kind of uh classification it was

777
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,200
but they would not

778
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,360
give that to me he told me that the

779
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:11,600
pentagon had not provided a reason

780
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:14,799
i asked if it was if that was

781
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:18,720
why he'd requested sap status for atip

782
00:27:22,710 --> 00:27:21,520
he said yeah that's why i wanted uh them

783
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,720
to take a look at it

784
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,320
but they wouldn't give me the clearance

785
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:25,760
so that was that

786
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:28,720
basically now uh there's a lot there's a

787
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,840
lot of narrative

788
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,240
going on about this kind of material we

789
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:33,600
saw in the wilson notes

790
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:36,880
about any of this uh ufo uh crash debris

791
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,760
material

792
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,520
ending up in the hands of private

793
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,600
contractors and it's not stated

794
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,039
specifically in

795
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,960
the wilson notes but the illusion is

796
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,320
that they're talking about

797
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:48,880
lockheed martin here that is uh you know

798
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:49,679
they are

799
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:52,880
uh

800
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,279
that is the implication there in that

801
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:58,000
and uh reed is saying it uh directly

802
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,520
but i never and also a part of the

803
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,039
narrative i should add

804
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:05,360
is that uh it's a great way to avoid

805
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:06,559
four-year requests as if

806
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:08,880
classification itself doesn't work

807
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,399
because obviously it does

808
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:12,480
and uh you can keep harry reid out of a

809
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:14,840
program uh you know you can keep uh

810
00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:18,240
uh keith basterfield or paul dean

811
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:21,360
or tony bergalia from the information

812
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:22,960
when they file for your request so

813
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:25,279
that's a that's a silly and i think

814
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,440
a misdirective misdirective and

815
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,840
unhelpful narrative that's been going on

816
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:33,840
it's all privatized to keep uh

817
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:35,919
uh to keep people from requesting foyers

818
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,320
it's a complete nonsensical story

819
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:40,720
and uh one of the reasons that i think

820
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:41,919
that's the case

821
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,120
is came up in the past week over at the

822
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:46,799
war zone the drive

823
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:49,200
uh honeywell fined millions over

824
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:50,799
exporting sensitive info

825
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:54,000
on f 22 f 35 and more

826
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:57,520
to china you've got if you can't

827
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,080
possibly

828
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,799
be telling me that uh uh any defense

829
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:02,640
contractor lockheed martin i don't i

830
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:03,760
don't care who it is

831
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:06,240
is going to do a better job at keeping

832
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,520
secrets to the government

833
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,600
so the idea that they would give this

834
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:11,039
sensitive information

835
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,080
it uh over to a private contractor no

836
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:16,080
matter how confident they are no matter

837
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:16,640
how

838
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,760
essentially they've uh who've taken the

839
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,760
golden parachute and moved over

840
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,760
uh into the defense contracting realm

841
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:27,200
and are working on the other side of the

842
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,399
tunnel essentially

843
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,480
that that they'd be doing this but the

844
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,480
the details on the story basically this

845
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:34,320
uh the u.s government and defense

846
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:35,919
contractor honeywell have reached a

847
00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:36,559
settlement

848
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:40,159
over alleged violations of portions of

849
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:41,120
the arms

850
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,480
export control act uh the uh

851
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:45,840
matter at hand had to do with

852
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:48,000
honeywell's alleged unauthorized export

853
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:49,679
of dozens of technical drawings

854
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,360
related to components of various

855
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:52,960
aircraft uh

856
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:57,039
the b-1b bomber in there f-f-35

857
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,000
joint strike force fighter f-22 raptor

858
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:01,840
tomahawk cruise missile

859
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,039
m1a1 abrams uh to multiple countries

860
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,720
including china not just china but the

861
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,640
multiple countries american officials

862
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,480
contend that some of the disclosures

863
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:13,200
are national security honeywell denies

864
00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:14,559
it of course

865
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,640
the u.s state department announced the

866
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,480
deal in which honeywell agreed

867
00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:21,440
to pay 13 million dollars in civil uh

868
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:22,000
penalties

869
00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:24,320
among other things of that amount uh the

870
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:26,240
payment of five million dollars was

871
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:27,679
immediately suspended

872
00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:30,240
on the condition that the company put it

873
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,880
toward

874
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:33,039
uh remedial compliance measures in other

875
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,919
words they

876
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:35,600
they need more money to do their job

877
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:37,279
right so they get they get a kickback

878
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:39,440
essentially on their 13 million dollar

879
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:40,000
fine

880
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,600
so they only took eight million dollars

881
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:43,919
from them so that's basically that story

882
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:46,960
uh i think that uh does a good a

883
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:50,240
a good real world story that uh kind of

884
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:50,480
uh

885
00:30:59,430 --> 00:30:55,440
around

886
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:59,440
number one that that people are actually

887
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,559
gonna go to jail

888
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,880
uh because of this ufo cover-up that's

889
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:04,000
pretty clearly not going

890
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:06,399
to happen and the the other is that uh

891
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:07,279
basically uh

892
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:09,440
the military-industrial complex is going

893
00:31:14,470 --> 00:31:11,840
to hand the keys to the kingdom

894
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:14,480
essentially uh extraterrestrial uh

895
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,760
functional aircraft

896
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:17,919
uh to the private sector to any private

897
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:18,799
contractor

898
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:23,200
so that is basically that and

899
00:31:29,509 --> 00:31:26,240
finally we did get a curve ball this

900
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:32,549
caused some consternation uh at least on

901
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:33,679
my part

902
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:36,880
uh a a a plot twist that uh to be honest

903
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:37,600
about it

904
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,919
uh it didn't look good to me uh of

905
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:41,360
course uh it's been uh

906
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:44,159
talked about for a while that uh jacques

907
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,399
villa's book the best kept secret

908
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,240
i was on its way it was uh going to be

909
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:50,240
published earlier this week and to tell

910
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,960
you the truth

911
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,799
i was actually thinking about buying it

912
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,039
putting a crowbar in my very own wallet

913
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:56,960
and buying this book so i could read it

914
00:32:02,149 --> 00:31:59,600
myself uh what it purported to be

915
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:02,159
uh based on the description at the

916
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:03,360
original amazon

917
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:05,440
site where it was uh available for

918
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:07,919
pre-order uh was that it would be a

919
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:10,799
look into uh basically the the details

920
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,200
of

921
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,360
materials research that valet was doing

922
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:15,440
his own work with atip and bigelow and

923
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:16,960
so on and so forth

924
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:20,000
and we found out within the last day or

925
00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:20,880
so

926
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,840
that he's been working on this for years

927
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:25,360
uh this is from uh

928
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:27,840
2017 contact in the desert before we

929
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:28,640
even got the

930
00:32:32,310 --> 00:32:30,880
uh the to the starters uh to the stars

931
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:32,320
academy announcement so

932
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,679
it's been going he's been working on

933
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:36,000
this for a while but uh what we saw last

934
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:37,919
night was something quite different

935
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:40,080
apparently the book is going to be

936
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:41,600
reworked

937
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,720
at trinity the best kept secret it's a

938
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:46,480
apparently at least according to this

939
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:47,760
rework cover

940
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:51,600
going to focus on a case from 1945

941
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:54,799
out in san antonio in new mexico

942
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,240
where a craft came down uh this is uh

943
00:33:01,750 --> 00:33:00,240
this is uh one of the pieces that

944
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:01,760
apparently was studied

945
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:05,519
and uh this uh so some kids uh

946
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:08,480
found this stuff and uh that's been

947
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:09,360
researched

948
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:12,799
uh the problems uh uh and uh criticism

949
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,200
about the story uh came pretty

950
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,200
immediately some researchers who

951
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:20,000
uh worked on it directly uh chase

952
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:21,120
klutzky and

953
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,559
alejandra rojas talked about oh not not

954
00:33:28,470 --> 00:33:26,720
not this case not this case how could

955
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,480
how could it be this case has been

956
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:30,399
looked at in the past

957
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:33,200
and there's uh there's a drawing there

958
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,320
and uh part

959
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,559
pieces from this crash excuse me how

960
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:37,600
this crash debris

961
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:40,480
had been analyzed in the past uh by uh

962
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:41,200
mufon

963
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:45,840
once in a while uh they're not making uh

964
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:49,039
bad news for uh you know all sorts of

965
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:50,559
unfortunate things uh

966
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:53,360
uh but uh uh in this case uh they got

967
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:55,120
hold of the piece uh they had it and

968
00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:55,919
well there's uh

969
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,320
uh that requested by jan harzon now we

970
00:34:02,149 --> 00:33:59,679
haven't heard his name again

971
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:02,159
uh for a while so uh that's uh uh that's

972
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,880
a good thing

973
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,960
uh but uh basically uh it goes through

974
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,720
the story uh they did have it

975
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:09,040
and uh what the these parts are are cast

976
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:09,839
aluminum they're

977
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:14,079
they're very ordinary and uh uh

978
00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:16,639
the uh folks that are familiar with this

979
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,639
case and have worked this case directly

980
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,760
uh you know they're they kind of

981
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:23,200
are shaking their heads you know yeah

982
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:25,440
it's a valet but uh they're shaking

983
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:26,639
their heads on this one they

984
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:29,520
they can't figure this out so maybe

985
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:31,280
maybe he did pull a rabbit out of his

986
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:32,000
hat and

987
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:33,760
they've done some additional analysis

988
00:34:40,069 --> 00:34:36,720
but according to this report

989
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,079
this frontier analysis limited it's

990
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,399
ordinary it's an ordinary piece it's

991
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:43,599
cast aluminum

992
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,639
very earthly isotopic ratios are

993
00:34:50,869 --> 00:34:49,440
normal as to be expected uh nothing to

994
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:50,879
see here at least according to this

995
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,440
report

996
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:53,440
and uh some additional editorial

997
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:54,960
comments uh from the

998
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,440
uh the authors who worked on it uh the

999
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,280
the witnesses yeah they they seem more

1000
00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:00,960
interested in money than anything else

1001
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:01,359
they

1002
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:04,560
you know so uh we'll see you know

1003
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,640
it's a field where uh rabbits get pulled

1004
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,640
out of hats we're in a period of uh

1005
00:35:12,550 --> 00:35:11,119
lots of plot twists so uh anything can

1006
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:12,560
happen who knows what's gonna happen

1007
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:13,280
next week

1008
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,880
uh rumors coming up that uh 60 minutes

1009
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,000
is going to do a

1010
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,440
story on this uh this ufo stuff as it's

1011
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,200
been going down over the last couple

1012
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,040
years a couple three years now

1013
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:27,359
and we'll see if that happens a good

1014
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,400
reason to believe

1015
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,560
that it is uh because a couple of uh

1016
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:32,880
60-minute producers with the official

1017
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,599
blue badges on a twitter have sort of

1018
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,839
hinted around about ufo stuff so

1019
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:39,599
uh could very well be that they are

1020
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,359
working on it and if they if they are

1021
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,960
they're just about done now we should be

1022
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,240
seeing it uh

1023
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:46,160
maybe as early as uh by the end of this

1024
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,680
month uh that

1025
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:49,440
uh that would be my guess that's about

1026
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:51,119
the turnaround time on those types of

1027
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:51,839
stories

1028
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,920
so uh we will see and that we will keep

1029
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,520
you updated on the news

1030
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:58,160
uh like i said i think we had a uh uh

1031
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:59,599
there's uh there's the uh

1032
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,160
uh the uh artists rendering of uh the

1033
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,240
the ufo so we do have a little bit more

1034
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,160
and then back to the top story this is

1035
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:07,920
the best news of the week that uh

1036
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,520
uh the uh this uh ufo uh reporting uh

1037
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,760
from uh the uh the defense department

1038
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,280
and the dia and

1039
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:17,119
all the rest is uh i've gotten a little

1040
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,800
bit of a kick and uh that

1041
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:21,200
i think uh that's what it needs and uh

1042
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:22,960
uh

1043
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:27,760
you a little bit of a kick

1044
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:30,720
and i'll be back as soon as i've got

1045
00:36:34,230 --> 00:36:32,560
something more to talk about for

1046
00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:34,240
you know however long i have to talk

1047
00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:35,680
about it so enjoy the rest of your